3rd-10th July 2014
6th July 2014 - NAI update for July
News from: National Archives Ireland July Document of the Month consists of a poster issued by the Department of Health in the 1950s urging parents to innoculate their children against diphtheria.
6th July 2014
I've just discovered that Sean Murphy has started a blog. Now for people who haven't heard of him. Here is John Grenham's take on him...(Irish Times Article from 25th March 2013
Introducing SEAN MURPHY, UNSUNG HERO OF IRISH GENEALOGY
"Seán Murphy is one of the unsung heroes of Irish genealogy. An academic historian by training, he has worked as a professional genealogist for more than thirty years and has published widely in journals and magazines. Among his longer publications are The Twilight of the Chiefs: The MacCarthy Mor Hoax (Academica, 2001) and his annual Directory of Irish Genealogy (available free online at bit.ly/ZZXPuu).
He is best known for the courses he gives as part of the Adult Education Programme of University College Dublin (see bit.ly/13etezw). At their simplest, these provide introductory classes to people who want to research their own family. However, Seán has also expanded and developed them to the point where it is possible to take a three-year course leading to a Certificate in Genealogy/Family History, an NUI qualification graded at NFQ level 7, the equivalent of an ordinary level Bachelor degree. The standards and principles inculcated in his students are high and enduring. Graduates of the course stay in contact, through a “Certificate Genealogists’ Alumni Group” (cigo.ie/constituents_ccag.html).
There are reasons why Sean is unsung: suffering fools gladly does not figure among his talents. The scepticism and academic rigour he applies relentlessly in his work can sometimes make it seem that he is actively searching for toes to tread on, and he has few friends in Irish genealogical circles (or cliques, as he might see them). But he has done deep and valuable service to research standards in this country."
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Haven't had a chance to do much more checking, but my advice, Use both, check family search for any BMD's pre 1958 first before using the new irishgenealogy website. The lack of a second name in the database is infuriating, and I still have anomalies. Still can't find my son and my friends child does not belong to her.
4th July 2014
Ok, so I've been up all night and I'm pulling my hair out. Still can't find my son born in the 90's so he must be an orphan and lots of other children must have been adopted as their mothers name is not as it should be.....
Having difficulty working out what the databased we are searching actually are, but what I can tell you from asking numerous questions is:-
What we're seeing is what the GRO staff have been using. An "improved" list.
From 1966 to 1990 GRO staff included actual dates of birth, marriage and death, the surnames of both spouses, and the marital status of the deceased, Because this worked for them, they started adding this info on older birth records 1900 to 1902 but not everybody was entering the same info, hence there is no consistency. They then worked on the records from 1903-1928, the information input improved but I'm finding lots of errors and they didn't continue this on after 1928 so 1928 to 1958 should be the same index as the LDS version,
Now it also seems that the marriage indexes have been enhanced from 1903 onwards too. GRO staff have indexed the spouses as a couple, bit sketchy up to 1913 but not bad, and yes we now have a new indexing system, each entry has been given an ID number, from what I can see it is a random number. I have been informed that was in place from 2005 onwards.
Ok folks, I'm still not up to speed but I'm learning and I've got over the fact that anyone who knows me can get my exact dob. Have a major problem with "second" names which I will try to figure out. I grandfather John Joseph Kelly's death is there but it would be like looking for a needle in a haystack if I din't have a date as there is no second name input for him.
3rd July 2014
The Irish Genealogy website now contains contains the Indexes to the Civil Registers of Births, Marriages and Deaths. All of these records can be searched through the main search menu. Bit clunky and the site is up and down. It will take a little time to get use to, but will update you in the next day or so. For the moment all I can tell you it that covers:-
The indexes to the registers of births/marriages/deaths from 1845/1864 to 1921 for the whole island of Ireland. They are claiming that these are enhanced indexed to what we are use to. What we have been using is a copy that the Mormans microfilmed (up to 1958). Findmypast and Ancestry have enhanced these records so if you are looking for a marriage, it offers some suggestions for spouse.
Indexes to the registers of births/marriages/deaths from 1922 for the 26 counties of the Irish Free State and the Republic of Ireland (does not include Northern Ireland).
Births: From 1864 to 2013 (though I've found a few births for the 1840's!!)
The mothers maiden name is listed from 1903, but again I've found a few with earlier dates, but seems to be missing a chunk of births in the 1990's
Marriages: This seems to cover 1864- 2013 from what I can gather. But again on a quick search found some listed for the 1840's. (civil partnerships are also listed 2010 - 2013)
Deaths: 1864 to 2013, and on limited search it shows marital status.
Ok, work and time needed to figure this out. Initial impression, not sure,should I be afraid, my birth is there with an exact date of birth, (I was born in the 60's,) my marriage is there and lists my husbands name. So I can't lie about my age anymore.